Book 041, Number 7015: (read it here if you like: http://www.hi5.com/friend/group/1916238--5933316--0--0--2--3%2Breligions--Hadiths%2Babout%2BANT--topic-html?offset=0&page=prev)

after learning from Imran Hosain, and about masonry and these societies, about the zionist control over the world, and about the symbolism in islam which faces a symbolic system of our modern time..i fell i UNDERSTAND what the prophet (pbuh) said, 2 years ago i didnt realise the fact behind these words

my OWN understanding (and this is according to sources also) we conclude 2 things

1- we are in the ERA of dajjal and his helpers (go and magog)

2- Jesus (pbuh) is MORE LIKELY to be ZUL QARNAIN

1- "He would appear on the way between Syria and Iraq and"

this is why they took jerusalem..to build the last jewish temple instead of the mosque of AL-AQSA, waiting for the messiah of the jews..the awaited LORD of the zions..the great architect..the illuminated one (one eye) on the dollar above the seal (TEMPLE)

2-"We said: Allah's Messenger, how quickly would he walk upon the earth? Thereupon he said: Like cloud driven by the wind"

The airplans, the dajjal holds the power of speed, driving like wind..controlling the SKY by his flights and military aircrafts

3-"He would then give command to the sky and there would be rainfall upon the earth and it would grow crops..their posturing animals would come to them with their humps very high and their udders full of milk and their flanks stretched..invite them. But they would reject him and he would go away from them and there would be drought for them and nothing would be lef t with them in the form of wealth."

the ARTIFICIAL rain..it's not difficult to make this scientefic experiment in even our houses, evaporating water, condensing them in clouds, and using this water in the lands

and using ARTIFICIAL FERTILIZERS to help the land grow crops..cant we do so ?

the Animals which are feed by us, and has special food to grow more faster and more quicker

when dajjal comes, as he will be controlling the world (his helpers are already controlling the world monetary system), who's with him he will make him rich, (alike England, USA, etc..) will give them WEALTH and who's against him he will ruin him (alike Iraq, etc..), will take WEALTH from them (alike many, not Iraq only)..any one against the system of dajjal is faught till it's ruined (afghanistan which was destroyed because of ruining the opium industry controlled by dajjal helpers, and many more)

4- "Bring forth your treasures, and the treasures would come out and collect (themselves) before him like the swarm of bees."

Technology doesnt let us make effort to collect the treasures under the earth, press the button, and you have what you want

5- "He would then call a person brimming with youth and strike him with the sword and cut him into two pieces and (make these pieces lie at a distance which is generally) between the archer and his target. He would then call (that young man) and he will come forward laughing with his face gleaming (with happiness)"

see modern magic tricks, or HOLLYWOOD which is owned by the same people owning the monetary system (hear about bilderberg group ? skull and bones ? masons ? illuminati ? elders of zion ? Kabala preachers ? international bankers ?..ALL CONNECTED..i call the THE GROUP OF EVIL..or THE DAJJAL HELPERS)

6- "Christ, son of Mary, and he will descend at the white minaret in the eastern side of Damscus wearing two garments lightly dyed with saffron and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels"

according to the gospel of barnabas, Jesus (pbuh) leaft this world in similar way, on wings of 2 angels also

7- "you take these people safely to Tur, and then Allah would send Gog and Magog and they would swarm down from every slope."

the man who will FIGHT against gog and magog (whom i think the helpers of dajjal or THE GROUP OF EVIL..whom helped him to be so, and after his death will try to take there golden age back again..

the man who will fight him is JESUS (pbuh)

if you traced the symbols in this part alone..when dajjal appears, we must read SURA (AL-KAHF) which has the story of ZU-ALQARNAIN (the owner of the 2 ages)

then we come after Jesus (pbuh) kill the dajjal, he will face GOG & MAGOG (whom were faced by Zul-Qarnain throw TECHNOLOGY "Zubur al hadid, mixing it, making huge building, etc...read the SURA")

so we have 2 conclusions

1- we are living in the era of dajjal (some people showed a convincing theory proving that dajjal finished his first two days throw ESTIMATION (the prophet (pbuh) said YOU SHOULD ESTIMATE)

2- Jesus (pbuh) is most likely ZULQARNAIN..specially after knowing that he who will face gog and magog, he who will live 2 times/ages (and read the post by tony about the dajjal/anti-christ which is about 40+ posts)

((Jesus (pbuh) is most likely ZULQARNAIN..)) :S

but there r other interpretation of the name of ZULQARNAIN.. but suddenly i realized now.. ZU means tht was has.. and QARNAIN = Dual of Qarn..

interesting...

So ur derivation is that.. it was Prophet Isa (As) was trapped Gog Magog first and he will come again when the gog magog will re appear....?

and tht i often thought about the part of the ayah where it says.. ZulQarnain said something to the people.. but they understood it not... yet i wondered HOW THE PEOPLE EXPRESSED TO HIM tht there is a nation (gog magog).. i mean if both of them did not undertand each others language..... then how were the people able to tell him about them....

"[And he marched on] till, when he reached [a place] between the two mountain-barriers, he found beneath them a people who could scarcely understand a word [of his language].They said: "O thou Two-Horned One! Behold, Gog and Magog" are spoiling this land. May we, then, pay unto thee a tribute on the understanding that thou wilt erect a barrier between us and them?"

18:93-94

can we mean here that.. it could be the Bani Israel who accepted not the faith of Allah, but according to their nature.. asked the prophet for help against gog magog..?

and also this Surah (al-Kahf) is to be recited on Friday.. and the meaning of the Hadith is... whoever recites this surah on friday shall be protected against all sorts of Fitnah (tribulations), even the fitnah of Dajjal if he appears b/w one friday to the other...

As Prophet Isa (As) is to come and fight Dajjal.. n so this mentions Prophet Isa (As) in this Surah...?

Is this wht u r saying Brother Tere...?

***ZU means "He who has"

look, i'm saying MOST LIKELY, not surely

if you go to Tony's topic (which is talking about the dajjal/anti christ)

you'll find him explaining this part in summery in the middle of his topics..i'll post the link of it so you can go see what he said, and connect it to the hadeeth, and conclude, or search for conclusions..i'm not saying that i'm sure of this..but just the probability increased

as i want to sleep i wasnt able to read all your words, i'm really exhausted..but about Zulqarnain..i'm an arab (and if you are so you should realise) that Qarn means horn/century or age of time..it's not a big deal to talk about meanings of words, they are there in dictionaries

but about people whom they dont understand..the arabic word is YAFQAHON (as i remember..if i'm wrong correct me..:D i'm not concentrating that well now)

but understand means YAFHAMON..and YAFQAHON is DEEPER understanding than YAFHAMON..this is a long story, and it's interpretation needs a practical scholar (modern one also)

because in simple words, the hadeeths about the end of time could not be even understood in it's SIMPLEST FORM till the last hundred years

many symbols in islam started showing it's self in this last hundred years

:D to be continued,,i'll get you the link now insha' ALLAH

http://www.hi5.com/friend/group/1916238--17999686--0--0--2--3%2Breligions--Who%2Bis%2Bthe%2BDorjja--topic-html?offset=20

start from the 4rth post in this page (i dont agree with what was said totally, but this it was interesting interpretation, that i find no problem to start looking to it from this point of view, we are just trying to understand at the end

"i dont agree with what was said totally" = i dont agree with ALL what's said..(not i dont agree at all..but i have my point of view about it :D )

sorry brother... im unable to make time to read the post.. or comprehend ur response..

inshaAllah soon!